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OWNER REVIEW - Filson Heavyweight Merino Wool Socks
richardglyon
2005-08-19 22:23:02 UTC
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Another longtime favorite:

OWNER REVIEW – FILSON HEAVYWEIGHT MERINO WOOL SOCKS
August __, 2005

Product: Filson Heavyweight Merino Wool Socks
Reviewer: Richard Lyon (backpacking profile at end of review)
Manufacturer: C. C. Filson Co.
URL www.filson.com
Year of manufacture: 1995 - 2005
Year of Purchase: 1995 - 2005
Length: 12 inches (32 cm) standard size; 18 inches (48 cm) over-the-
calf, in each case from the heel to the top of the sock
Weight per pair, as measured (not listed on manufacturer's site):
7.0 oz (198 g) for size XL standard, 9.5 oz (289 g) for size XL over-
the-calf
Color: Gray
Fabric: 84% virgin Merino wool/15% nylon/1% Lycra® spandex
MSRP: USD 24.50 standard; USD 30 over-the-calf
Sizes available: Unisex Medium (fits men's US sizes 6-9), Large (9-
12), Extra Large (12-16)
Similar Products: Filson also sells Lightweight and Midweight Merino
Wool Socks. Some of these are available in colors other than gray.
Warranty: "Filson guarantees its products will perform to your
satisfaction."

Fabric and Design: From Filson's website: "Only comfortable,
wickable 100% Merino wool touches your foot. Then, to reduce wear
and make socks last longer, we added nylon -- but only in the socks'
outer surface -- especially in the heel and toe. A special knitting
technique makes this possible." (N.B. Many hiking socks that are
primarily synthetic have some wool and many natural wool socks
(including the Heavyweights) have some synthetic. I use the term
synthetic in this review to refer to any sock with less than 75%
natural wool content.)

As with all Filson products, function trumps flash; these
socks have an altogether ordinary appearance. They are available
only in pale gray. A Lycra band at the top of the sock has a
lighter gray color, and on newer purchases I can detect a slightly
lighter shade on the toes and heels. "Filson" is printed in plain
green type just below the toe line. This bit of advertising is of
course visible only when the socks aren't inside my boots, and I
like this feature as it makes it easier to pick the Filsons out of
the sock drawer.

Why I Use Them: Ten years ago I bought my first pair of Heavyweights
because they were the bulkiest wool or wicking synthetic sock I
could find. I have a long, narrow foot (US size 12-B) and favor
thick socks, even at the expense of unnecessary insulation, to
reduce movement inside my boots. This concern has increased as
fewer bootmakers offer a narrow width boot off the shelf. (My
thanks to Danner for continuing to look after me in this regard.)
That's still an important reason why I keep using these socks. A
decade's favorable experience is another.

When and Where I Use Them. For me, these are strictly athletic
socks. In my temperate home climate I find the Heavyweights too
warm for casual use, even in winter. From my first pair ten years
ago through this writing the Heavyweights have been my socks of
choice for snowshoeing and backcountry and in-bounds telemark skiing
and for year-round hiking whenever I expect to carry 30 pounds (12.5
kg) or heavier loads. (That's most of my backpacking, as for me
even overnighters or three-day trips normally mean a large pack and
some camp extravagances.) I prefer the over-the-calf version for
winter sports, for additional warmth, while the lower-cut standards
reduce insulation and take up less pack room when backpacking in
other seasons. When hiking I always wear these socks with thin wool
or synthetic liner socks. A liner isn't necessary when wearing my
plastic tele boots.

What I Think of Them. I have tried socks with a higher synthetic
content with mixed success (best results with Smartwool products),
but in my experience no synthetic wicks moisture away any more
effectively than wool. That's especially true in winter. After a
full day of hard skiing, when wet feet mean cold feet, these socks
and my feet are drier than my boot liners.

Boots carry more blame than socks for blisters, of course, and I
have occasionally developed blisters when hiking in the
Heavyweights. But every little bit helps. I've found no sock of
any kind with the bulk of the Heavyweights, and that bulk, I am
convinced, does lower the blister risk. The Heavyweights
immediately improved the condition of my feet (and consequently of
my general attitude) when wearing a not-quite-broken-in pair of
standard width all-leather Scarpa boots on a long steep hike in
Montana.

These socks are heavy (a pair of similarly sized Smartwool Hikers
weighs five ounces (142 g), about 30% less) and I'm sure that my
feet are hotter on a warm summer day on a steep trail when I wear
them. More bulk and a very tight weave mean less breatheability
than any lighter sock and probably less breatheability than a
synthetic. Comparing against any other sock with a liner and heavy
boot, though, the difference is marginal.

The Heavyweights dry more slowly than higher synthetic-content
socks. Again the difference is marginal. In the Rockies in summer
everything dries quickly when it's dry or not at all when it's damp.

One final advantage: It usually gets chilly in the evenings in high
country, and my custom is to change into clean socks in camp after
the day's hiking is done, for comfort and warmth. Short of cashmere
or alpaca there is nothing cozier than natural Merino fibers against
my skin – far less scratchy than a synthetic.

Do They Last? While I haven't made any scientific comparisons, I
believe these socks last longer than higher-synthetic counterparts.
In the field I wash my socks by hand and dry them in the sun; at
home it's mild soap, usually Ivory or Woolite, and delicate cycle
with cold water in the washer followed by line drying. On those
occasions when I get lazy and use the dryer (on the lowest heat
setting, delicate cycle) there's minor shrinkage, but the socks
stretch back to normal size when pulled on my feet. Unlike
synthetics, I've encountered very little pilling, and there's less
fabric "erosion" on the heels from washing or wear and tear than on
my other hiking and ski socks. The only pair of Heavyweights I've
disposed of in the last five years met the same fate as my homework –
chewed up by my Great Pyrenees puppy.

Will I keep Buying Them? As long as Filson sells 'em. Filson is now
108 years old, so that's likely to be for the rest of my lifetime.

Backpacking background:

Male, 59 years old
6' 4" (1.91 m) tall, 200 lb (91 kg)
Email address: rlyon-RbfoTPPwhLi1h8DMDp+***@public.gmane.org
Home: Dallas, Texas USA

I've been backpacking for 45 years on and off, and regularly in the
Rockies since I moved to Texas in 1986. I do a weeklong trip every
summer, and often take three-day trips. I'm usually camping in
alpine terrain, at altitudes 5000 to 13,000 ft (1500 - 4000 m). I
prefer base camp backpacking, a long hike in with day trips from
camp, but I do my share of forced marches too. Regardless of type of
trip, I'll tote a few extra pounds to have the camp conveniences
I've come to expect.





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chcoa
2005-08-20 05:15:25 UTC
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Christine
2005-08-25 01:39:36 UTC
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Hi Richard,

Nice review! They sound like great socks. Just a few edits for
you. First, keep the review to one item only. Since you use the
standard length socks for most of your backpacking, it seems that
this review should be on them. You probably have several pairs of
the shorter socks, so write about your oldest pair (or second oldest
if those were the ones that got eaten) and use experiences with newer
pairs to supplement. Be sure to stay consistent with your headings.
For the most part you capitalized all words in the headings and
followed the heading with a colon. Most of the edits I made were
when a colon or some capitalization weren't there. Whichever way you
do it, be consistent. If you would REPOST with these edits, I'll get
you a folder to upload.

Thanks,

Christine
BGT Editor
_______________________________________

URL www.filson.com
*EDIT: Add colon after URL:

Year of Purchase: 1995 – 2005
*EDIT: Write about your oldest pair, so use 1995.

Year of manufacture: 1995 – 2005
*EDIT: Use 1995 if you think that's when your oldest pair was made.
Capitalize "Manufacture"

Length: 12 inches (32 cm) standard size; 18 inches (48 cm) over-the-
calf, in each case from the heel to the top of the sock
*EDIT: Is this your measurements or the manufacturer's?
*EDIT: Move the over-the-calf info under "Similar Products"

Sizes available:
*EDIT: capitalize "Available:"

Fabric and Design: …(N.B. Many hiking socks that are
primarily synthetic have some wool and many natural wool socks
(including the Heavyweights) have some synthetic. I use the term
synthetic in this review to refer to any sock with less than 75%
natural wool content.)
*EDIT: Start a new paragraph at the parentheses. I'm not sure what
N.B. stands for, so spell it out or use another phrase as the header.

When and Where I Use Them.
EDIT: For consistency, change the period to a colon: "Them:"

What I Think of Them.
*EDIT: change the period to a colon: "Them:"

I have tried socks with a higher synthetic content with mixed success
(best results with Smartwool products),
*EDIT: SmartWool

I've found no sock of any kind with the bulk of the Heavyweights, and
that bulk, I am convinced, does lower the blister risk.
*EDIT: Add a "for me" at the end of this sentence. I find bulky
socks increase my blister risk.

More bulk and a very tight weave mean less breatheability
than any lighter sock and probably less breatheability
*EDIT: "breathability"

Do They Last? While I haven't made any scientific comparisons, I
believe these socks last longer than higher-synthetic counterparts.
*EDIT: "lasted longer" or "have lasted longer" makes the sentence
less general and more specific to your experiences

In the field I wash my socks by hand and dry them in the sun; at
home it's mild soap, usually Ivory or Woolite, and delicate cycle
with cold water in the washer followed by line drying.
*QUESTION: Do the socks come with washing instructions?

The only pair of Heavyweights I've disposed of in the last five years
met the same fate as my homework – chewed up by my Great Pyrenees
puppy.
*QUESTION: What happened to your 10-year old socks?







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richardglyon
2005-08-25 15:00:03 UTC
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Christine,

I have made your changes and a few more, either to correct other
typos (SmartWool appeared twice) or to adjust the content based upon
your edits regarding focusing the review on my first pair of
standard length socks. I'll send you a Deltaview comparison offline
so that you can check these additional edits. Apparently only we
soon-to-be senior citizens who studied Latin regularly use the
initials for Latin phrases that were once quite common in everyday
English usage (i.e. for "id est" which means "that is" and e.g.
for "exempli gratia" which means "for example" are two
others). "N.B." stands for "nota bene," meaning literally "note
well" and not so literally "please note." My apologies.
I will upload the Repost OR to the OR test folder.

OWNER REVIEW – FILSON HEAVYWEIGHT MERINO WOOL SOCKS
August __, 2005

Product: Filson Heavyweight Merino Wool Socks
Reviewer: Richard Lyon (backpacking profile at end of review)
Manufacturer: C. C. Filson Co.
URL: www.filson.com
Year of Manufacture: 1995
Year of Purchase: 1995
Length (listed and measured): 12 inches (32 cm) from the heel to the
top of the sock
Weight per pair, as measured (not listed on manufacturer's site):
7.0 oz (198 g) for size XL
Color: Gray
Fabric: 84% virgin Merino wool/15% nylon/1% Lycra® spandex
MSRP: USD 24.50 standard
Sizes Available: Unisex Medium (fits men's US sizes 6-9), Large (9-
12), Extra Large (12-16)
Similar Products: Filson also sells Lightweight (75% wool content)
and Midweight (80% wool content) Merino Wool Socks. Some of these
are available in colors other than gray. Each weight including the
Heavyweights is available in over-the-calf length (18 in, 48 cm) as
well as standard.
Warranty: "Filson guarantees its products will perform to your
satisfaction."
Fabric and Design: From Filson's website: "Only comfortable,
wickable 100% Merino wool touches your foot. Then, to reduce wear
and make socks last longer, we added nylon -- but only in the socks'
outer surface -- especially in the heel and toe. A special knitting
technique makes this possible."
(Note: Many hiking socks that are primarily synthetic have some wool
and many natural wool socks (including the Heavyweights) have some
synthetic. I use the term synthetic in this review to refer to any
sock with less than 75% natural wool content.)
As with all Filson products, function trumps flash; these socks have
an altogether ordinary appearance. They are available only in pale
gray. A Lycra band at the top of the sock has a lighter gray color,
and on newer purchases I can detect a slightly lighter shade on the
toes and heels. "Filson" is printed in plain green type just below
the toe line. This bit of advertising is of course visible only
when the socks aren't inside my boots, and I like this feature as it
makes it easier to pick the Filsons out of the sock drawer.
Why I Use Them: Ten years ago I bought my first pair of Heavyweights
because they were the bulkiest wool or wicking synthetic sock I
could find. I have a long, narrow foot (US size 12-B) and favor
thick socks, even at the expense of unnecessary insulation, to
reduce movement inside my boots. This concern has increased as
fewer bootmakers offer a narrow width boot off the shelf. (My
thanks to Danner for continuing to look after me in this regard.)
That's still an important reason why I keep using these socks. A
decade's favorable experience is another. I've since purchased five
or six additional pairs of the Heavyweights in either standard or
over-the-calf lengths.
When and Where I Use Them: For me, these are strictly athletic
socks. In my temperate home climate I find the Heavyweights too
warm for casual use, even in winter. From my first pair ten years
ago through this writing the Heavyweights have been my socks of
choice for snowshoeing and backcountry and in-bounds telemark skiing
and for year-round hiking whenever I expect to carry 30 pounds (12.5
kg) or heavier loads. (That's most of my backpacking, as for me
even overnighters or three-day trips normally mean a large pack and
some camp extravagances.) I prefer the over-the-calf version for
winter sports, for additional warmth, while the lower-cut standards
reduce insulation and take up less pack room when backpacking in
other seasons. When hiking I always wear these socks with thin wool
or synthetic liner socks.
What I Think of Them: I have tried socks with a higher synthetic
content with mixed success (best results with SmartWool products),
but in my experience no synthetic wicks moisture away any more
effectively than wool. That's especially true in winter. After a
full day of hard skiing, when wet feet mean cold feet, these socks
and my feet are drier than my boot liners.
Boots carry more blame than socks for blisters, of course, and I
have occasionally developed blisters when hiking in the
Heavyweights. But every little bit helps. I've found no sock of
any kind with the bulk of the Heavyweights, and that bulk, I am
convinced, does lower my blister risk. The Heavyweights immediately
improved the condition of my feet (and consequently of my general
attitude) when wearing a not-quite-broken-in pair of standard width
all-leather Scarpa boots on a long steep hike in Montana.
These socks are heavy (a pair of similarly sized SmartWool Hikers
weighs five ounces (142 g), about 30% less) and I'm sure that my
feet are hotter on a warm summer day on a steep trail when I wear
them. More bulk and a very tight weave mean less breathability than
any lighter sock and probably less breathability than a synthetic.
Comparing against any other sock with a liner and heavy boot,
though, the difference is marginal.
The Heavyweights dry more slowly than higher synthetic-content
socks. Again the difference is marginal. In the Rockies in summer
everything dries quickly when it's dry or not at all when it's damp.
One final advantage: It usually gets chilly in the evenings in high
country, and my custom is to change into clean socks in camp after
the day's hiking is done, for comfort and warmth. Short of cashmere
or alpaca there is nothing cozier than natural Merino fibers against
my skin – far less scratchy than a synthetic.
Do They Last? While I haven't made any scientific comparisons, I
believe these socks have lasted longer than higher-synthetic
counterparts. In the field I wash my socks by hand and dry them in
the sun; at home I normally follow the manufacturer's instructions
by using mild soap, usually Ivory or Woolite, and delicate cycle
with cold water in the washer followed by line drying. On those
occasions when I get lazy and use the dryer (on the lowest heat
setting, delicate cycle) there's minor shrinkage, but the socks
stretch back to normal size when pulled on my feet. Unlike
synthetics, I've encountered very little pilling, and there's less
fabric "erosion" on the heels from washing or wear and tear than on
my other hiking and ski socks. I think I still have my first pair,
as I remember pitching only one relatively new pair, about two years
ago, after they met the same fate as my homework – chewed up by my
Great Pyrenees puppy.
Will I keep Buying Them? As long as Filson sells 'em. Filson is now
108 years old, so that's likely to be for the rest of my lifetime.
Backpacking background:
Male, 59 years old
6' 4" (1.91 m) tall, 200 lb (91 kg)
Email address: rlyon-RbfoTPPwhLi1h8DMDp+***@public.gmane.org
Home: Dallas, Texas USA
I've been backpacking for 45 years on and off, and regularly in the
Rockies since I moved to Texas in 1986. I do a weeklong trip every
summer, and often take three-day trips. I'm usually camping in
alpine terrain, at altitudes 5000 to 13,000 ft (1500 - 4000 m). I
prefer base camp backpacking, a long hike in with day trips from
camp, but I do my share of forced marches too. Regardless of type of
trip, I'll tote a few extra pounds to have the camp conveniences
I've come to expect.
Post by Christine
Hi Richard,
Nice review! They sound like great socks. Just a few edits for
you. First, keep the review to one item only. Since you use the
standard length socks for most of your backpacking, it seems that
this review should be on them. You probably have several pairs of
the shorter socks, so write about your oldest pair (or second
oldest
Post by Christine
if those were the ones that got eaten) and use experiences with newer
pairs to supplement. Be sure to stay consistent with your
headings.
Post by Christine
For the most part you capitalized all words in the headings and
followed the heading with a colon. Most of the edits I made were
when a colon or some capitalization weren't there. Whichever way you
do it, be consistent. If you would REPOST with these edits, I'll get
you a folder to upload.
Thanks,
Christine
BGT Editor
_______________________________________
URL www.filson.com
Year of Purchase: 1995 – 2005
*EDIT: Write about your oldest pair, so use 1995.
Year of manufacture: 1995 – 2005
*EDIT: Use 1995 if you think that's when your oldest pair was
made.
Post by Christine
Capitalize "Manufacture"
Length: 12 inches (32 cm) standard size; 18 inches (48 cm) over-
the-
Post by Christine
calf, in each case from the heel to the top of the sock
*EDIT: Is this your measurements or the manufacturer's?
*EDIT: Move the over-the-calf info under "Similar Products"
*EDIT: capitalize "Available:"
Fabric and Design: …(N.B. Many hiking socks that are
primarily synthetic have some wool and many natural wool socks
(including the Heavyweights) have some synthetic. I use the term
synthetic in this review to refer to any sock with less than 75%
natural wool content.)
*EDIT: Start a new paragraph at the parentheses. I'm not sure what
N.B. stands for, so spell it out or use another phrase as the
header.
Post by Christine
When and Where I Use Them.
EDIT: For consistency, change the period to a colon: "Them:"
What I Think of Them.
*EDIT: change the period to a colon: "Them:"
I have tried socks with a higher synthetic content with mixed
success
Post by Christine
(best results with Smartwool products),
*EDIT: SmartWool
I've found no sock of any kind with the bulk of the Heavyweights, and
that bulk, I am convinced, does lower the blister risk.
*EDIT: Add a "for me" at the end of this sentence. I find bulky
socks increase my blister risk.
More bulk and a very tight weave mean less breatheability
than any lighter sock and probably less breatheability
*EDIT: "breathability"
Do They Last? While I haven't made any scientific comparisons, I
believe these socks last longer than higher-synthetic counterparts.
*EDIT: "lasted longer" or "have lasted longer" makes the sentence
less general and more specific to your experiences
In the field I wash my socks by hand and dry them in the sun; at
home it's mild soap, usually Ivory or Woolite, and delicate cycle
with cold water in the washer followed by line drying.
*QUESTION: Do the socks come with washing instructions?
The only pair of Heavyweights I've disposed of in the last five years
met the same fate as my homework – chewed up by my Great Pyrenees
puppy.
*QUESTION: What happened to your 10-year old socks?
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