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OWNER REVIEW: Titanium Goat 'Ptarmigan' bivy sack
David Loome
2009-08-25 01:15:18 UTC
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Reviewed item: Titanium Goat ‘Ptarmigan’ bivy sack

Tester:
Name: David Loome
Age: 22
Height: 5’9”
Weight: 160
Location: Flagstaff, Arizona- U.S.A.
Email: david.loome-***@public.gmane.org
Website: www.davidloome.com

Tester’s hiking background:
I have hiked about 11,000 miles on and off trail throughout North America including established trails (AT, PCT, CT, JMT, etc.) various routes, and numerous long distance hikes of my own design. I enjoy hiking in all sorts of conditions. I increasingly prefer routes and ‘do-it-yourself” hikes to established trails. I always pack very light, but am not a gram-counter. I know what I need, and simply strive to bring only those things. In gear, I value simplicity, functionality and durability. My base weight is usually between 8 and 10 lbs.

Product information:

Manufacturer: Titanium Goat (www.titaniumgoat.com)
Year of manufacture: 2008
Claimed weight: 5.8 ounces for bivy, stuff sack adds 0.2 oz (confirmed accurate on testers scale)
MSRP: $90-$115 US depending on options

Product description

The Ptarmigan bivy is not waterproof and is not intended as a stand-alone backpacking shelter. This type of bivy is intended to compliment the sleeping/shelter system of the ultralight tarp camper: The bivy replaces a groundsheet, provides insect protection and additional protection from rain over-spray and from condensation or frost. It also adds a measure of warmth to a sleeping bag's temperature rating. When used in dry weather "cowboy" camping or within an 'AT' style shelter, the bivy makes a superb stand-alone shelter, providing additional warmth and insect protection while still allowing a view of the night sky, or without taking up the space of a tent inside a shelter.

The top of the bivy is made of a lightweight, highly breathable DWR treated nylon and the bottom is waterproof siliconized nylon. The two-layer hood of the bivy contains a full bug-mesh hood, over which the DWR nylon hood may be optionally zipped for additional warmth/protection. Both hoods have guy-out loops to hold the hood off the occupants face. The loops can be attached under a tarp, an overhead branch, A trekking pole stuck into the ground, etc.

The construction of the bivy is excellent. All components are accurately cut and sewed, and seams are well finished. All materials are high quality.


Locations/Conditions of use

I’ve used the Titanium Goat Ptarmigan bivy sack frequently over a period of four months in a variety of 3-season conditions while backpacking, rafting and cycling. I estimate that the bivy has been carried for approximately 1,200 trail miles and has been slept in 60 times. About 50% of the time, the bivy was used in conjunction with my tarp shelter (modified Golite Lair 1 tarp) for the remainder it was used by itself while “cowboy” camping or while under a different sheltering structure (trail shelter, etc.)

I carry the Ptarmigan bivy whenever I am using a tarp as my primary shelter. I have used the bivy at elevations from 600 to 10,000 feet, night time temperatures from 30-70 degrees, conditions ranging from warm and dry, to cool and rainy, to dry and near-freezing. It has seen a lot of desert use and a variety of mixed use elsewhere. I should note that while I have experienced frost in the bivy, I have not used the bivy in extreme cold, and cannot vouch for it’s performance for winter use.

Performance

The Ptarmigan bivy has performed exceptionally well. The DWR top does protect against slight overspray and condensation, yet is highly breathable and has not yet condensed moisture within the bivy, even in humid, cool conditions. In most conditions, the top is so breathable that damp clothing or a damp sleeping bag will dry while inside the bivy.

The silnlyon floor and raised 'bath-tub' style seam adequately protects against wet ground. The full mesh hood offers total insect protection with excellent ventilation. The cut of the bivy is generous. It is big enough to read inside, and to fit lofty winter bags. When used with my quilt, I also like how the bivy helps keep the quilt wrapped around me and eliminates drafts.

For an ultra light product, the bivy is highly durable and shows few signs of wear. In order to protect the sil-nylon bottom which is subject to the most abuse, I typically use my sleeping pad between it and the ground and place my backpack under my feet at night.

Summary

The Titanium Goat Ptarmigan bivy is a highly functional and useful piece of gear, is well designed, and performs its intended functions very well. When compared to similar products, the Ptarmigan stands out for its low price, costing significantly (sometimes half as much) less than functionally equivalent products with comparable weights. I would very highly recommend the Ptarmigan to anyone in the market for this type of bivy, particularly tarp and quilt users, and those in high bug areas who want a lightweight alternative to a tent.

What I like
-Exceptionally low weight for a variety of features and functions
-Simple, functional design
-Low price compared to functionally equivalent products by competing manufacturers
-Reduces pack weight by replacing ground sheet, etc.
-High quality materials and construction
-Full bug protection and weighs just a few ounces!

What I don’t like
-Nothing. This is an outstanding product.







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chcoa
2009-08-30 06:27:31 UTC
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a_henrichs
2009-09-01 03:03:32 UTC
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Hi David,

Welcome to BGT! Below are your edits for this OR. As an FYI, edits usually take on one of 3 forms. EDITS=must change, Edits=think about changing, Comments=just that.

You have a very good review here. I have a bunch of edits for you, but most are minor and some may be due to what we lovingly call Yahooisms. Basically, some strange code translation in the post. After these edits are made, there are a couple of things you must do. First, create an html version of your review and upload it to test/Owner Review category of backpackgeartest.org. This category is only available after you log in. Once that is done, repost your review here with a tinyurl link to your html file. Since this is your first OR, it's not required, but HIGHLY ENCOURAGED that you include a picture of the product in your html file. This is required for all future reviews.

This can be a very daunting process, but you have a great start. Keep plugging away and I look forward to reading your edited report.

Thanks!

Andy
Post by David Loome
Height: 5’9”
EDIT: some funny characters popped up. It's probably best to use ft and in for height. Also, metric conversions are needed here.
Post by David Loome
Weight: 160
EDIT: add lb as well as metric conversions
EDIT: another funny character that needs fixing.
Post by David Loome
I have hiked about 11,000 miles on and off trail throughout North America
EDIT: conversion needed
Post by David Loome
I increasingly prefer routes and ‘do-it-yourself” hikes...
EDIT: more funny characters.
Post by David Loome
My base weight is usually between 8 and 10 lbs.
EDIT: metric conversions needed
Post by David Loome
Claimed weight: 5.8 ounces for bivy, stuff sack adds 0.2 oz
EDIT: conversions needed
Post by David Loome
Product description
EDIT: There is some info missing from this section. Are there zippers? If so, where? Also, how long is it? Are there various sizes available? How wide is it? It would be helpful to include the girth measurements from the TiGoat website. You give a general idea of size later in the OR but more specific sizing info would be useful for readers.
Post by David Loome
Both hoods have guy-out loops to hold the hood off the occupants face.
EDIT: Where are these loops found on the hood? How many are there
Post by David Loome
Locations/Conditions of use
EDIT: Good section, but there is some needed info missing. How easy is it to get into and out of the bivy?
Post by David Loome
I’ve used the Titanium Goat...
EDIT: funny characters
Post by David Loome
I estimate that the bivy has been carried for approximately 1,200 trail miles...
EDIT: conversions needed
Post by David Loome
About 50% of the time, the bivy was used in conjunction with my tarp shelter (modified Golite Lair 1 tarp) for the remainder it was used by itself while “cowboy” camping...
I would either put a ; after "tarp)" or else a . and start a new sentence with "For" Also, more funny characters around cowboy.
Post by David Loome
I have used the bivy at elevations from 600 to 10,000 feet, night time temperatures from 30-70 degrees...
EDIT: Conversions needed
Post by David Loome
and cannot vouch for it’s performance for winter use.
EDIT: funny characters
Post by David Loome
Performance
For an ultra light product, the bivy is highly durable and shows few signs of wear.
Comment: Are there any signs of wear? If so, a brief mention would be helpful.
Post by David Loome
costing significantly (sometimes half as much) less than functionally equivalent products with comparable weights.
Edit: I would move the info in parenthesis after "less"
David Loome
2009-09-15 05:20:31 UTC
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