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REVISED: OWNER REVIEW Osprey ceres 70
Chase Gruszewski
2003-11-25 18:08:39 UTC
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Osprey Ceres 70

Bio
Name: Chase Gruszewski
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Height: 6’0” (1.83m)
Weight: 165lbs (74.84kg)
Email address: garhreth-***@public.gmane.org
City, State, Country: Annapolis MD USA
Date: November 19, 2003
Backpacking Background:
I grew up near the Appalachian Mountains in Virginia and have been
backpacking since I was about ten years old. I generally can only spend
weekends on the trails, but occasionally head out for week long trips. In
conjunction with hiking, I also do some trail running and rock climbing, so
I look for lightweight and technical aspects in my gear. I am also on a slim
budget, so price tends to factor into my decisions.

Product Info
Manufacturer: Osprey
Manufacture year: 2002
Web site: http://www.ospreypacks.com
Listed Weight: 4lbs, 9oz (2070g)
Delivered Weight: 4lbs, 12oz (2150g)

Product Description
The Ceres 70 is a large, internal-frame pack designed for mountaineering.
It is toploading with no side or front zippers to access the middle of the
pack. While it is difficult to reach objects in the center of the pack, the
absence of zippers makes the pack more durable since zippers tend to be the
first points of failure on any piece of equipment. It utilizes Osprey’s
StraightJacket compression system which is good at varying the pack size
from fully loaded to completely empty. It has a built-in, hipbelt and an
anatomically curved harness with a survival whistle on the sternum strap.
The Ceres style pack comes in three volumes, 38 liter (2300 cu in), 50 liter
(3000cu in), and 70 liter (4200 cu in). Within these volumes you can
purchase size small, medium, large, or x-large to fit your torso.

The official uses, designated by the owner instructions published by
Osprey, for the pockets included skis, snowboard, crampons, water bottles,
rope, protective rock climbing gear, ice axes, and still a few left over,
miscellaneous. Owners should note that just because the owner’s manual says
“ski strap” or “snow-shovel pocket” does not mean that any other piece of
equipment will fail in this location. Your own packing skills are the only
limiting factor. Personally, I use the snow shovel pocket to carry trail
food, books, and sometimes rope; I use the ski straps to carry binoculars,
cameras, and cord; I put water filters and wet socks in the crampon pouches
and I am a huge fan of my ball cap retention system on the top of the pack.
After losing my tent and pad on one trip I tied some cord from the tent to
climbing gear loops on the front of the hipbelt so I would know if it had
come loose. This pack can carry anything and everything.

The pack only comes in one color, Arson Orange (a.k.a. “don’t shoot me, I’m
not a deer” orange). While there has been quite fuss over the color of this
pack, to me the functionality is more important than the fashion. The color
orange has its uses during hunting season, or when trying to find your pack
after ditching it for a quick side journey, or trying to signal a helicopter
of your location. Besides, the orange is unusual, which means cool in my
book.

The Field Test
I have taken this pack on one week-long trip and multiple weekend trips in
the Appalachian Mountains. I have used it to carry weights ranging from
25-55 lbs (11.3kg-24.9kg) on trails, on rock, and off route. Activities it
has been involved in include camping, climbing, hiking, and falling (just
the pack, dropped about 20 ft or 6.1 m). I have used it in each of the four
seasons and in weather including rain, snow, and sun.

I must admit, my greed for a few extra cubic inches (deciliters) caused me
to order a size large pack online. On Osprey’s web site they fit a size
medium pack to an 18”-20.5” (45.7cm-52.1cm) torso and a size large pack to a
20”-22.5” (50.8cm-57.2cm) torso. I have 20” torso (honestly it’s about 19.9”
(50.5cm) so I figured both option were open to me and I chose a large in
order to carry a few extra Power Bars. I discovered that a size medium would
have probably been more ideal. After a few days on the week-long excursion,
I finally found the proper adjustments to comfortably carry the weight, and
while it’s a little tight around my chest, the fact that I can get an
incorrectly sized pack to distribute the weight correctly says something
good about the suspension system.

When scrambling over rock, new adjustment are necessary due to the weight
shifting around with the sudden movements. The straps are very easily
accessible, and after some tinkering I found the sweet spot. I could jump,
skip, crawl, and climb across the rock the same as any other day.

On the week-long trip, it rained every single day. This was an unfortunate
way to discover that the pack was not waterproof. Every piece of clothing
and gear in my pack was damp at the end of each day. Rain covers are
available at various retailers, and highly recommended for this pack.

I have used this pack to carry enough food for 6 people (canned food),
climbing gear for two top ropes, clothing for 30 degree Fahrenheit (about
zero degrees Celsius) weather, 2 engineering textbooks (not light), and a
few other miscellaneous extras in one trip. On the other end of the
spectrum, I have carried only one sleeping bag, a tent, and a freeze-dried
dinner for myself. The pack performed very well in each scenario, having
plenty of room when space was needed, and using its StraightJacket
compression to shrink down when little gear was carried.


Summary
This is an excellent multi-purpose pack.

After a year of hard use, the pack shows little sign of wear and tear. I
expect it will last a good ten years before retirement, not a bad investment
as far as packs go. I continue to find new uses for its various straps and
pockets. I highly recommend this pack to anyone who is considering doing
something more than just hiking on their trips to the outdoors, but if you
are just a hardcore hiker you might want to look for something simpler with
fewer bells and survival whistles.

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Tom Jones
2003-11-26 18:17:38 UTC
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Excellent revision, Chase. Please make the following minor changes
then upload. You might want to upload to the test folder first, to
see how it looks, first.
Post by Chase Gruszewski
Osprey Ceres 70
Bio
Name: Chase Gruszewski
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Height: 6'0" (1.83m)
Weight: 165lbs (74.84kg)
EDIT==>We have discussed this to death and developed a style on
abbreviations and conversions. The guidelines are: a. abbreviated
units are singular, not plural; b. there should be one space between
the value and the unit (exception: " and '); c. when making
conversions, apply common sense to adjust the decimal places to
indicate the same sense of accuracy.

For example, your height and weight come out to:

Height: 6'0" (1.83 m)
Weight: 165 lb (75 kg)
SUGGESTION==> It might be better to put your email in the "non-
harvestable" form, such as: garhreth at homeboys dot com. This is
still readable by humans, but cannot be harvested by the spam monkeys.
Post by Chase Gruszewski
City, State, Country: Annapolis MD USA
Date: November 19, 2003
I grew up near the Appalachian Mountains in Virginia and have
been
Post by Chase Gruszewski
backpacking since I was about ten years old. I generally can only spend
weekends on the trails, but occasionally head out for week long trips. In
EDIT==> week-long
Post by Chase Gruszewski
conjunction with hiking, I also do some trail running and rock
climbing, so
Post by Chase Gruszewski
I look for lightweight and technical aspects in my gear.
EDIT==> light weight
Post by Chase Gruszewski
I am also on a slim
budget, so price tends to factor into my decisions.
Product Info
Manufacturer: Osprey
Manufacture year: 2002
Web site: http://www.ospreypacks.com
Listed Weight: 4lbs, 9oz (2070g)
Delivered Weight: 4lbs, 12oz (2150g)
EDIT==> applying previously stated guidelines:

4 lb, 9 oz (2070 g); 4 lb, 12 oz (2150 g)
Post by Chase Gruszewski
Product Description
The Ceres 70 is a large, internal-frame pack designed for
mountaineering.
Post by Chase Gruszewski
It is toploading with no side or front zippers to access the middle of the
pack. While it is difficult to reach objects in the center of the pack, the
absence of zippers makes the pack more durable since zippers tend to be the
first points of failure on any piece of equipment. It utilizes
Osprey's
Post by Chase Gruszewski
StraightJacket compression system which is good at varying the pack size
from fully loaded to completely empty. It has a built-in, hipbelt and an
EDIT==> no comma after "built-in"
Post by Chase Gruszewski
anatomically curved harness with a survival whistle on the sternum strap.
EDIT==> Much better. Please do me a favor and insert "shoulder"
between "curved" and "harness".
Post by Chase Gruszewski
The Ceres style pack comes in three volumes, 38 liter (2300 cu in), 50 liter
(3000cu in), and 70 liter (4200 cu in).
EDIT==> Need a space after "3000".
Post by Chase Gruszewski
Within these volumes you can
purchase size small, medium, large, or x-large to fit your torso.
COMMENT==> Website only shows small, medium and large. If you have
a source that shows otherwise, is ok, otherwise please drop the xl.
Post by Chase Gruszewski
The official uses, designated by the owner instructions
published by
Post by Chase Gruszewski
Osprey, for the pockets included skis, snowboard, crampons, water bottles,
EDIT==> "include"
Post by Chase Gruszewski
rope, protective rock climbing gear, ice axes, and still a few left over,
miscellaneous. Owners should note that just because the owner's
manual says
Post by Chase Gruszewski
"ski strap" or "snow-shovel pocket" does not mean that any other
piece of
Post by Chase Gruszewski
equipment will fail in this location.
COMMENT==> The left and right quotes might convert oddly in html.
Check these in the test folder upload. You might have to convert to
simple quotes """" by copying and pasting them in, or turn off smart-
quotes in Word.
Post by Chase Gruszewski
Your own packing skills are the only
limiting factor. Personally, I use the snow shovel pocket to carry trail
food, books, and sometimes rope; I use the ski straps to carry
binoculars,
Post by Chase Gruszewski
cameras, and cord; I put water filters and wet socks in the crampon pouches
and I am a huge fan of my ball cap retention system on the top of the pack.
EDIT==> give me another semicolon after "pouches" and I can use this
as an excellent example of how to use semicolons. I would
prefer "the" rather than "my" before "ball cap" - it sounds like you
invented it.
Post by Chase Gruszewski
After losing my tent and pad on one trip I tied some cord from the tent to
climbing gear loops on the front of the hipbelt so I would know if it had
come loose. This pack can carry anything and everything.
COMMENT==> This is a significant comment and your only negative
comment. Did you actually "lose" the tent, or did it just fall out.
You might add another sentence on this topic, making it into a
paragraph, and I mostly say this because it is your only negative
comment and so deserves more than a quick pass. Was it "user-
error"? - then say so. Nothing like a little self-deprecation to
improve a review.
Post by Chase Gruszewski
The pack only comes in one color, Arson Orange (a.k.a. "don't
shoot me, I'm
Post by Chase Gruszewski
not a deer" orange). While there has been quite fuss over the color
of this
Post by Chase Gruszewski
pack, to me the functionality is more important than the fashion. The color
orange has its uses during hunting season, or when trying to find your pack
after ditching it for a quick side journey, or trying to signal a helicopter
of your location. Besides, the orange is unusual, which means cool in my
book.
The Field Test
I have taken this pack on one week-long trip and multiple
weekend trips in
Post by Chase Gruszewski
the Appalachian Mountains. I have used it to carry weights ranging from
25-55 lbs (11.3kg-24.9kg) on trails, on rock, and off route.
EDIT==> unit usage: 25-55 lb (11-25 kg)

Activities it
Post by Chase Gruszewski
has been involved in include camping, climbing, hiking, and falling (just
the pack, dropped about 20 ft or 6.1 m).
EDIT==> "6 m"

I have used it in each of the four
Post by Chase Gruszewski
seasons and in weather including rain, snow, and sun.
I must admit, my greed for a few extra cubic inches
(deciliters) caused me
Post by Chase Gruszewski
to order a size large pack online. On Osprey's web site they fit a
size
Post by Chase Gruszewski
medium pack to an 18"-20.5" (45.7cm-52.1cm) torso and a size large
pack to a
Post by Chase Gruszewski
20"-22.5" (50.8cm-57.2cm) torso.
EDIT==> in this case, accuracy is important, so just toss a space
between each number and the "cm".


I have 20" torso (honestly it's about 19.9"
Post by Chase Gruszewski
(50.5cm)
EDIT==> you're missing a close paren here. You really should not
say "about" and then give a highly accurate measurement. And please
don't say you have a 20" torso, then immediately correct yourself -
instead, just go straight to the accurate measurement.


so I figured both option were open to me and I chose a large in
Post by Chase Gruszewski
order to carry a few extra Power Bars.
EDIT==> "PowerBar" brand name, they use it without a space.

I discovered that a size medium would
Post by Chase Gruszewski
have probably been more ideal.
COMMENT==> would be easier to read if you left out the "probably".

After a few days on the week-long excursion,
Post by Chase Gruszewski
I finally found the proper adjustments to comfortably carry the weight, and
while it's a little tight around my chest, the fact that I can get
an
Post by Chase Gruszewski
incorrectly sized pack to distribute the weight correctly says
something
Post by Chase Gruszewski
good about the suspension system.
When scrambling over rock, new adjustment are necessary due
to the weight
Post by Chase Gruszewski
shifting around with the sudden movements.
EDIT==> "adjustments" or "is" - but they need to match.


The straps are very easily
Post by Chase Gruszewski
accessible, and after some tinkering I found the sweet spot. I
could jump,
Post by Chase Gruszewski
skip, crawl, and climb across the rock the same as any other day.
On the week-long trip, it rained every single day. This was
an unfortunate
Post by Chase Gruszewski
way to discover that the pack was not waterproof. Every piece of clothing
and gear in my pack was damp at the end of each day. Rain covers are
available at various retailers, and highly recommended for this pack.
I have used this pack to carry enough food for 6 people
(canned food),
Post by Chase Gruszewski
climbing gear for two top ropes, clothing for 30 degree Fahrenheit (about
zero degrees Celsius) weather,
COMMENT==> don't need the "about" (the reader is aware that this is
a "round number")


2 engineering textbooks (not light), and a
Post by Chase Gruszewski
few other miscellaneous extras in one trip. On the other end of the
spectrum, I have carried only one sleeping bag, a tent, and a
freeze-dried
Post by Chase Gruszewski
dinner for myself. The pack performed very well in each scenario, having
plenty of room when space was needed, and using its StraightJacket
compression to shrink down when little gear was carried.
COMMENT==> Excellent writing!
Post by Chase Gruszewski
Summary
This is an excellent multi-purpose pack.
After a year of hard use, the pack shows little sign of wear
and tear. I
Post by Chase Gruszewski
expect it will last a good ten years before retirement, not a bad investment
as far as packs go. I continue to find new uses for its various straps and
pockets. I highly recommend this pack to anyone who is
considering doing
Post by Chase Gruszewski
something more than just hiking on their trips to the outdoors, but if you
are just a hardcore hiker you might want to look for something
simpler with
Post by Chase Gruszewski
fewer bells and survival whistles.
Excellent job, Chase. Thanks for getting on it so effectively. Just
a few things to clean up.

Tom


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