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OWNER REVIEW - Coleman Rock Springs 8-Person Tent
Dale Hedrick
2005-05-12 01:50:28 UTC
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Coleman Rock Springs 8-Person Tent

Reviewer Information:
Name: Dale Hedrick
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Height: 6’2” (1.8 Meters)
Weight: 275 Pounds (125 Kilograms)
Email Address: dhedrick-***@public.gmane.org
City, State, Country: Kenosha, Wisconsin, USA
Date: May 11, 2005

Backpacking Background:
I have been camping my entire life – only sporadically as a child, but
over the past 4 years I have been camping more and more. I am married
and have 2 young children who often accompany me on my trips, so I
usually take dayhikes from our base camp, although I am starting to take
more weekend backpacking trips too. Most of my current
camping/backpacking is done in the Wisconsin State Parks on relatively
flat land. Temperatures range from 32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 Celsius) to
95 degrees Fahrenheit (35 Celsius). Most of my backpacking is done
between April and October, with an average temperature around 70 degrees
Fahrenheit (21 Celsius).

Product Information:
Manufacturer Coleman
Year of Manufacture 2004
Manufacturer’s Website www.coleman.com
<http://www.coleman.com/>
Listed Weight 30 Pounds (13.6 kilograms)
Actual Weight 31.2 Pounds (14.2 kilograms)

Product Description:
Occupancy 8 person tent
Rooms 4 rooms & a screened porch – 3
doors to the outside
Material 185T polyester, 1000D
polyethylene sheeting
Poles Fiberglass
Dimensions 72”(183cm)H x 204”(518cm)W x
168”(427cm)D


Field Information:
I have used this tent as my family’s sole tent for the past 10 months.
During this time we have camped in southeastern Wisconsin on numerous
occasions. The terrain has been very similar every time – level,
slightly rocky terrain. It has been used in beautiful 70 degree
Fahrenheit (21 Celsius) weather, in downpours when it was only 40
degrees Fahrenheit (4 Celsius), and pretty much anything in between.

My biggest concern when first considering this tent was the weight – at
over 30 pounds (14 kilograms), it truly is a beast. I would never
consider using this tent for anything but camping when a vehicle was
within 5 miles (8 kilometers) of the campground – any further and it
would be too much of a burden to make it worthwhile. I’ve been able to
park within ¼ mile (1/2 kilometer) of our campsite each time I’ve used
it, so the weight was not much of an issue after all. The biggest
selling point for us on this tent was the size – while there are only 4
of us who use this tent regularly, it is nice to have some extra space
in case the kids have friends that tag along. It is also very nice for
me to have a tent that is tall enough that I can stand up inside with no
effort. This tent met these criteria, and then some.

The second concern was how difficult setup would be. I am technically
challenged to begin with, and I have had a very hard time setting up
large family-style tents in the past. Imagine my terror when we
realized that the instructions had not been included with our tent!
Quite honestly, I was amazed with the set-up of this tent. It
definitely requires two people to set it up, but for the two of us, it
was a breeze – from opening the tent to having it fully set up took us
less than 5 minutes. A true testament to the ease of set up is that
even with 6 poles and a huge tent, we had no trouble even without any
directions.

If there were to be a dictionary definition of torture testing a family
tent, having two young & rambunctious children spend an entire weekend
in it while it is cold and raining would probably be at the top of the
list. This is exactly what happened to us on one trip. There was no
leaking of any sort through the whole ordeal, and there was no shortage
of toys (and children) bouncing off the walls, and fingers leaving
smudges on the fabric – it stayed comfortable and put up with as much
abuse as we could give it. Another blessing was the screened porch –
while it didn’t keep 100% of the water off the ground, it stopped the
ground from becoming a large mud puddle like the rest of our campsite,
which meant that the inside of our tent stayed pretty dry with minimal
mud being tracked in. Not only have the material and seams held up
wonderfully to water, but the fabric has demonstrated its durability by
withstanding the abuses of children playing inside the tent, and also
playing with sticks swinging towards it on the outside. Another added
bonus is that there are a plethora of mesh pockets inside, so there is
no lack of storage for anything that I want to have at my fingertips.

Overall, this tent is fantastic. There are only a few small downsides
to this tent. First, and most obviously is the weight, but that’s the
price you pay to have a huge tent to sleep in. Second, there is no
screen to zip around the primary entrance, as the screen porch serves
that purpose – I would much prefer to have a second screen so that the
screen porch could be tied open, or so that I could sleep with only the
screen zipped shut, but not let in the bugs that can crawl under the
porch. Finally, the stakes that are provided with the tent do not hold
up well – they are very prone to bending, but since I have had this
problem with ALL of my previous tents, I was prepared and brought my
preferred stakes along just in case they bent. My only other complaint
is that the tent is advertised as a 4 room, 8 person tent, but it is
really sized that it should be a 3 room, 6 person tent. It could
accommodate 8 people, but would not be comfortable at that size except
for sleeping, and with a tent this large I need everyone to be able to
be active inside in the event of bad weather.

Summary:
While this tent will not be my only tent (it’s too heavy to even be
considered for a weekend backpacking trip), it will remain my only base
camping tent for as long as it lasts. It has proven to be the perfect
match for my family, and has been extremely durable. If you were to
take a look at this tent, you would think that it had only been used
once or twice – it’s seen a great deal of use, but is still in perfect
condition. I have had no problems with zippers or fraying/tearing, and
I have no reason to expect any. I am very pleased with the quality and
durability of this product.


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chcoa
2005-05-12 05:42:45 UTC
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colonelcorn76
2005-05-24 01:27:00 UTC
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Dale,

Nice job. Not exactly a backpacking tent but certainly fits in the
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Post by Dale Hedrick
Coleman Rock Springs 8-Person Tent
### Need "Owner Review" in the title
Post by Dale Hedrick
Height: 6'2" (1.8 Meters)
Weight: 275 Pounds (125 Kilograms)
### When denoting unit measurements either use the full spelling as
you have but do not capitalize any but proper names (Farenheit,
Celsius) or use abbreviations (lb, m, kg) as noted in the conversion
page on www.backpackgeartest.org/convert.html (scroll down to the
bottom of the page for the chart of abbreviations).
Post by Dale Hedrick
<http://www.coleman.com/>
Listed Weight 30 Pounds (13.6 kilograms)
Actual Weight 31.2 Pounds (14.2 kilograms)
### "pounds"
Post by Dale Hedrick
Dimensions 72"(183cm)H x 204"(518cm)W x
168"(427cm)D
### Be consistent with your measurement units -- eigher spell them out
or use abbreviations but use the same style throughout the report.
These need to be changed to "centimeter" and you need a space between
the value & the unit. Also, are these dimensions the listed or
measured ones?
Post by Dale Hedrick
over 30 pounds (14 kilograms), it truly is a beast. I would never
consider using this tent for anything but camping when a vehicle was
within 5 miles (8 kilometers) of the campground – any further and it
would be too much of a burden to make it worthwhile. I've been able to
park within ¼ mile (1/2 kilometer) of our campsite each time I've used
it, so the weight was not much of an issue after all. The biggest
### How do you carry it? How big of a "package" does it pack down to
(dimensionally)? Can it fit in a backpack or would you be making
multiple trips to the car in order to huff it in?
Post by Dale Hedrick
in case the kids have friends that tag along. It is also very nice for
me to have a tent that is tall enough that I can stand up inside with no
effort. This tent met these criteria, and then some.
### How tall is it in each room -- the same 72" you noted before? How
much ventilation is available (window area, #, etc.)? What kind of
screening is there -- no-see-um or something else?
Post by Dale Hedrick
realized that the instructions had not been included with our tent!
Quite honestly, I was amazed with the set-up of this tent. It
### "setup"
Post by Dale Hedrick
list. This is exactly what happened to us on one trip. There was no
leaking of any sort through the whole ordeal, and there was no shortage
### Are the seams sealed out of the box or did you seal them after you
got it?
Post by Dale Hedrick
of toys (and children) bouncing off the walls, and fingers leaving
smudges on the fabric – it stayed comfortable and put up with as much
abuse as we could give it. Another blessing was the screened porch –
### How is this constructed? Is it just a fly with screening that
drops to the ground or is fully floored? How big is the porch? What
kind of access is there to it -- one door from outside & one from
inside? What kind of floor does the tent have (bathtub)?
Post by Dale Hedrick
Overall, this tent is fantastic. There are only a few small downsides
to this tent. First, and most obviously is the weight, but that's the
price you pay to have a huge tent to sleep in. Second, there is no
### Avoid the use of "you"/"your"/"yours"/"you're"/etc. so as not to
project your experiences/feelings on the reader. Please reword in 1st
person.
Post by Dale Hedrick
screen to zip around the primary entrance, as the screen porch serves
that purpose – I would much prefer to have a second screen so that the
screen porch could be tied open, or so that I could sleep with only the
### Do the windows have solid panels that tie back? How easy is this?
Any issues with the tie/tabs being long enough to keep them from
loosening?
Post by Dale Hedrick
screen zipped shut, but not let in the bugs that can crawl under the
porch. Finally, the stakes that are provided with the tent do not hold
up well – they are very prone to bending, but since I have had this
### What kind are they - aluminum nail types, Y-pegs, plastic, steel?
How big are they?
Post by Dale Hedrick
problem with ALL of my previous tents, I was prepared and brought my
preferred stakes along just in case they bent. My only other complaint
### What kind do you use instead of theirs?
Post by Dale Hedrick
is that the tent is advertised as a 4 room, 8 person tent, but it is
really sized that it should be a 3 room, 6 person tent. It could
### Why only 3 rooms -- isn't this a center room, two side rooms on
either side of the center & the porch?
Post by Dale Hedrick
match for my family, and has been extremely durable. If you were to
take a look at this tent, you would think that it had only been used
### Rewrite without "you"...something along the lines of "looking at
this after 8 months of solid use, it still looks new"





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